{ localUrl: '../page/7g8.html', arbitalUrl: 'https://arbital.com/p/7g8', rawJsonUrl: '../raw/7g8.json', likeableId: '3944', likeableType: 'page', myLikeValue: '0', likeCount: '2', dislikeCount: '0', likeScore: '2', individualLikes: [ 'AdomHartell', 'EricRogstad' ], pageId: '7g8', edit: '4', editSummary: '', prevEdit: '3', currentEdit: '4', wasPublished: 'true', type: 'comment', title: '"On the pro side: The whole "farmed animal welfa..."', clickbait: '', textLength: '1523', alias: '7g8', externalUrl: '', sortChildrenBy: 'recentFirst', hasVote: 'false', voteType: '', votesAnonymous: 'false', editCreatorId: 'BenjaminHoffman', editCreatedAt: '2017-01-16 20:23:02', pageCreatorId: 'BenjaminHoffman', pageCreatedAt: '2017-01-16 19:58:17', seeDomainId: '0', editDomainId: '2137', submitToDomainId: '0', isAutosave: 'false', isSnapshot: 'false', isLiveEdit: 'true', isMinorEdit: 'false', indirectTeacher: 'false', todoCount: '0', isEditorComment: 'false', isApprovedComment: 'true', isResolved: 'false', snapshotText: '', anchorContext: '', anchorText: '', anchorOffset: '0', mergedInto: '', isDeleted: 'false', viewCount: '4387', text: 'On the pro side: The whole "farmed animal welfare" field in the US gets less than $100MM per year, and makes material changes to how Americans eat.\n\nIf all ~200M adult Americans gave \\$1/day to animal welfare charities instead of changing their diets further, that would fund about \\$7 billion of ***annual*** activism on this. That's huge. That's more than 100X what it is now. That's [all US federal election expenditures](https://www.opensecrets.org/overview/cost.php) *during a presidential election year* (but including house and senate races). That's more than twice [MIT's entire budget](http://web.mit.edu/facts/financial.html).\n\nIn present value terms, at a 5% annual discount rate, that's equivalent to a one-time expenditure of \\$140 billion. That's way more than the [Manhattan Project](https://www.ctbto.org/nuclear-testing/history-of-nuclear-testing/manhattan-project/) cost, adjusted for inflation.\n\nSeems plausible that if you could scale up current efforts to that size at current levels of cost-effectiveness, it would be equivalent in welfare impact to getting Americans off factory-farmed meat and eggs altogether. This isn't a room for more funding argument - you'd hit diminishing returns way before that point - but it does suggest that the \\$1/day offset argument is not crazy *on current margins*, so long as you're willing to switch strategies if and when these orgs stop seeming cash-constrained (or, if you're willing to give a larger lump sum now, while such opportunities are still available.)', metaText: '', isTextLoaded: 'true', isSubscribedToDiscussion: 'false', isSubscribedToUser: 'false', isSubscribedAsMaintainer: 'false', discussionSubscriberCount: '1', maintainerCount: '1', userSubscriberCount: '0', lastVisit: '', hasDraft: 'false', votes: [], voteSummary: 'null', muVoteSummary: '0', voteScaling: '0', currentUserVote: '-2', voteCount: '0', lockedVoteType: '', maxEditEver: '0', redLinkCount: '0', lockedBy: '', lockedUntil: '', nextPageId: '', prevPageId: '', usedAsMastery: 'false', proposalEditNum: '0', permissions: { edit: { has: 'false', reason: 'You don't have domain permission to edit this page' }, proposeEdit: { has: 'true', reason: '' }, delete: { has: 'false', reason: 'You don't have domain permission to delete this page' }, comment: { has: 'false', reason: 'You can't comment in this domain because you are not a member' }, proposeComment: { has: 'true', reason: '' } }, summaries: {}, creatorIds: [ 'BenjaminHoffman' ], childIds: [], parentIds: [ 'dollar_per_day_animal_offset', '7fl' ], commentIds: [], questionIds: [], tagIds: [], relatedIds: [], markIds: [], explanations: [], learnMore: [], requirements: [], subjects: [], lenses: [], lensParentId: '', pathPages: [], learnMoreTaughtMap: {}, learnMoreCoveredMap: {}, learnMoreRequiredMap: {}, editHistory: {}, domainSubmissions: {}, answers: [], answerCount: '0', commentCount: '0', newCommentCount: '0', linkedMarkCount: '0', changeLogs: [ { likeableId: '0', likeableType: 'changeLog', myLikeValue: '0', likeCount: '0', dislikeCount: '0', likeScore: '0', individualLikes: [], id: '21732', pageId: '7g8', userId: 'BenjaminHoffman', edit: '4', type: 'newEdit', createdAt: '2017-01-16 20:23:02', auxPageId: '', oldSettingsValue: '', newSettingsValue: '' }, { likeableId: '0', likeableType: 'changeLog', myLikeValue: '0', likeCount: '0', dislikeCount: '0', likeScore: '0', individualLikes: [], id: '21711', pageId: '7g8', userId: 'BenjaminHoffman', edit: '3', type: 'newEdit', createdAt: '2017-01-16 19:59:04', auxPageId: '', oldSettingsValue: '', newSettingsValue: '' }, { likeableId: '0', likeableType: 'changeLog', myLikeValue: '0', likeCount: '0', dislikeCount: '0', likeScore: '0', individualLikes: [], id: '21709', pageId: '7g8', userId: 'BenjaminHoffman', edit: '2', type: 'newEdit', createdAt: '2017-01-16 19:58:37', auxPageId: '', oldSettingsValue: '', newSettingsValue: '' }, { likeableId: '0', likeableType: 'changeLog', myLikeValue: '0', likeCount: '0', dislikeCount: '0', likeScore: '0', individualLikes: [], id: '21708', pageId: '7g8', userId: 'BenjaminHoffman', edit: '1', type: 'newEdit', createdAt: '2017-01-16 19:58:17', auxPageId: '', oldSettingsValue: '', newSettingsValue: '' } ], feedSubmissions: [], searchStrings: {}, hasChildren: 'false', hasParents: 'true', redAliases: {}, improvementTagIds: [], nonMetaTagIds: [], todos: [], slowDownMap: 'null', speedUpMap: 'null', arcPageIds: 'null', contentRequests: {} }